JF: Does the course have an official name yet, or a logo?
GH: No. I guess because there arecontractual issues with anything that uses the Olympic name or logo, they haven’t ironed out that detail yet, but I’msure they will by the time the Games start.
JF: Brazil is a soccer-crazy country, andyour course is only the second public golf course there. What was the local reactionto building a golf course as part of theOlympic infrastructure?
GH: The local reaction was, I would say, indifference. No one really knew where the course was going to be, and we were operating behind the walls,so to speak—not a lot of people knew what was being built. It was built kind of quietly, due to the land dispute.
JF: What was the hardest part of thewhole process?
GH: The hardest part was we were not initially afforded the resources we needed. The developer didn’t give us the equipment or the manpower, so wespun our wheels for nine months before being fully funded and operational as a golf-course project.
JF: Has there been an impact due to Zika virus concerns?
GH: There are a few man-made lakes on the property that we use for watering, so there’s quite a bit of transfer, and we have to be vigilant in keeping itmoving, which hasn’t been an issue so far. The water hazards are constantly being churned, so even though there are some big bodies of water, theydon’t get the chance to be stagnant. We get asked about it quite a bit since it’s a big health concern. But, for us, it hasn’t been much of an issue.
JF: You’ve been asked to help with how the course will be laid out for actual play at the Games—an honor not usually bestowed upon the architect. It’slike writing a screenplay and then getting to help direct the movie.
GH: That’s a good analogy. Yes, it’s an amazing honor. I’m not sure if I’ll be a final decision-maker—more of a sounding board, since the course is newand never hosted a tournament of any kind before. Hopefully, I can be a good resource, and I’ll be glad to help any way I can.
JF: So what aspect of the coursewill challenge the best men’s and women’s players?
GH: Ultimately, the wind will be the critical factor. If the wind blows like it can (August is a windy month), it will affect the scores. If the wind lies down,it’s a pretty wide course, so there could be some low numbers. Much like links golf, the wind will have the biggest say in what the scores will be.
JF: Is there a signature hole—one that will wow those watching at home?
GH: Not one hole particularly, but a series of holes. We set up the final three finishing holes for dramatic effect and pacing: a drivable par 4, a short par3, and a reachable par 5. We expect some pretty dramatic shifts on those holes and hopefully a positive change in the leaderboard—lots of birdiesand even eagles. We wanted the potential drama of someone making eagle to win the Olympic gold, rather than losing on a bogey. For lots ofviewers, this may be their first time watching golf, since it’s part of the Olympics, so we wanted the potential for excitement.
JF: Does this course have elements that can be found in your other designs?
GH: There’s lots of short-grass in play—lots of short grass connections between green and tee like we used at Applebrook. Visually there is a parallel tothe Australian sandbelt courses like Royal Melbourne and Kingston Heath.
It’s a unique, sand-based site with a variety of different sands: bright white, brown and orange. Whatever sand was native to a given hole, that’s whatwe used. On the same hole, you’ll even see different sand in each of the bunkers. Players will have to gauge the sands and how the ball comesout of each type. We weren’t trying to prove a point or make the course more difficult. Ifgolf is serious about sustainability,why spend time and money to bringin outside sand and move it aroundjust to conform to some type ofaesthetic standard?
JF: Speaking of a sandy site, how isthe new Black course coming at Streamsong in Florida?
GH: It’s coming along nicely—six holes are grassed, and the next four are almost ready. We are really excited about building next to the Tom Doak andBill Coore/Ben Crenshaw courses there—those are guys I respect the most in the business. We’re anticipating it will be ready for play in the fall of2017. We’re very happy with it.
JF: I heard a good Gil Hanse story from Sean Palmer, former assistant pro at Merion who’s now at the Union League Golf Club at Torresdale. He saidthat, when you were renovating some of the bunkers at Merion, you walked the course with him and, at one point, asked where most of themembers hit their tee shots on that hole. When he showed you, you took out spray paint and marked the location for a bunker. That soundsdownright diabolical—any truth to it?
GH: Ah, the 16th hole … yes!
JF: Your work takes you around the world to some exotic locations. What makes the Main Line so appealing?
GH: Well, it’s where we started. All three kids have been raised here and went through a variety of schools.That was a critical component with afamily—that we had some great public and private schools in the area. We live in an old, converted barn in Malvern and love the history and charm of thearea. We’ve lived here for 23 years, so no place feels quite like this. It’s home.